Posts Tagged ‘Hanlon expressway’

Jan Andrea Hall

Karen Farbridge, Backstabbing And Her Bid For Re-election
Jan Andrea Hall, Royal City Rag

Since Mayor Karen Farbridge announced her bid for re-election this past Thursday, February 24, one or two of her supporters have publicly alluded to the fact that the Mayor has been “stabbed in the back” by erstwhile supporters during her current term.

They believe that, as many progressive Guelphites worked hard to get her re-elected in 2006, after a fairly dysfunctional term under Mayor Quarrie, we should not only be happy to have her back, but keep quiet and remain supportive, regardless of the decisions her council and administration choose to make.

Unfortunately not everyone can do that, and, for that reason, are shunted off into the “backstabbing” group of the disaffected.

I count myself in that category even though I am as progressive as they come.

As far as I’m concerned, Farbridge’s administration has been found wanting on all the ‘big decision items’ of the past three years… the upgrades to the Hanlon Expressway, the proposed Hanlon Creek Business Park and the Strategic Urban Forestry Master Plan (otherwise known as the urgent need for a much stronger protective by-law).

I call them the big decision items because they will have a huge effect on this city, for years to come. Progressive Guelphites choked over the previous council’s decision to support the Commercial Policy Review setting up four large shopping centre ‘nodes’ around the city. Yet, the Hanlon Expressway and Hanlon Creek Business Park decisions will have far more impact over the coming years.

Farbridge’s supporters may say that these are done deals; the Hanlon Expressway upgrades being ordained by the province through the Ontario Ministry of Transportation (colloquially known as the Ministry for Roads) and the Hanlon Creek Business Park (HCBP) by previous administrations.

But would it have hurt to question whether the right decisions were made or whether these proposed projects could have been improved upon, especially in the case of the HCBP, where the city is the primary developer?

Where was the leadership to resolve citizen environmental group concerns about Hanlon Creek?

Hanlon Creek Downstream In The Spring (Photo: Bob Gordon)

That Farbridge chose to remain silent at the Guelph Civic League convened public meeting in March about Hanlon Creek at Norfolk Street United Church suggests that she may not be cut out for high office in Guelph. Instead of offering a few words of welcome she instead chose to sit at the back with body language suggesting that she really wished she was somewhere else entirely.

The fact that council barely emitted a whimper with respect to the assumptions underlying the provincial growth plan Places To Grow, and the need for Guelph to grow from 105,000 to a whopping 165,000 people by 2031 raises questions about a serious deficit of leadership at City Hall.

The bullying tactics that have been employed to stifle opposition to the Hanlon Creek Business Park, including this week’s SLAPP suit, also raises questions about the direction the city is moving in. So much for community consultation.

We have now been waiting nineteen years for a new protective tree by-law. Farbridge talked about this as a priority in 2003 (more on this in a future commentary)yet we are still waiting. And in the meantime, we continue to lose our tree canopy.

Add to that, the fact that the City had a Transparency and Accountability Committee meet for two years to, amongst other things, discuss the important (but under the Municipal Act, currently discretionary) positions of Lobbyist Registrar, Auditor General, Ombudsmen and Integrity Commissioner only for the City’s Governance Committee to recommend against proceeding with these checks and balances until after the next election. This only raises further concerns about how truly accountable and transparent the current administration wants to be.

Is Mayor Farbridge the right Mayor for Guelph?

I went into the last municipal election in 2006 with high hopes that clearly haven’t been met. Farbridge is clearly strong on process (perhaps too strong?) but is she capable of taking the big decisions and making a stand.

I hope that if her re-election is successful she will turn back to her progressive roots and move in a truly sustainable direction. Enough of the spin and green-washing, please.

People need to consider what is best for Guelph for the next four years and beyond when they go to vote.

Mayor Farbridge may like the idea of being Guelph’s Hazel McCallion, but do we really have to look like Mississauga too?

Jan Andrea Hall

Royal City Rag will continue to focus on what is important for the common good as we move forward with the election. We will not shy from bringing forward issues. Expect many more commentaries on the record of the current council and hopes for the next council as we move towards the election.

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Frank Valeriote In Debate

It was our great pleasure to welcome Frank Valeriote, MP for Guelph, back to Royal City Rag on February 27.

During a wide ranging conversation in the first hour, we talked about the resumation of parliamentary activities in Ottawa on March 3 after Stephen Harper’s self-serving prorogation, the upcoming budget (to be tabled by the government on March 4) and Frank’s own committee work in the agriculture and food sectors.

Its also appropriate to mention that their will be another awareness event in Guelph on March 2 with respect to the inappropriate use of prorogation to stifle parliamentary debate. 

The Guelph chapters of the Council of Canadians and Canadians Against Proroguing Parliament and Guelph Participates are encouraging people to come out to Carden Street, in front of City Hall for the “Searchlight on Democracy Walk and Talk” at 7.00 p.m. for some short speeches, followed by a short candlelight procession to Norfolk St United Church for a discussion on how we can hold the government accountable for their actions and avoid such abuses in the future.

There was an excellent panel discussion on this issue on January 2. You can check out the audio from that event including Frank Valeriote’s speech here.

Searchlight on Democracy Walk and Talk
When: Tuesday, March 2 at 7.00 p.m.
Where: City Hall – Guelph (1 Carden St.) and then to Norfolk Street United Church for presentations and a group discussion

We also had a chance to discuss the burgeoning contorversy concerning Canada’s financial aid for earthquake stricken Haiti. It seems that the aid the government is providing may be coming out of funds already earmarked for Haiti prior to the earthquake and not new funding at all. This situation needs to be watched very closely.

The Canada Haiti Action Network are screening the documentary Aristide and the Endless Revolution at the Bookshelf Cinema on Saturday March 6 at 1.00 p.m. This is a free event. A discussion about the current situation in Haiti, including financial aid from the Government of Canada, will occur after the screening.

Aristide and The Endless Revolution
When: Saturday March 6 @ 1 p.m.
Where: The Bookshelf Cinema, Quebec St, Downtown Guelph
Admission: Free (donations gratefully accepted).

Frank Valeriote can be contacted via his Gueph office, 40 Cork Street East, Guelph, N1H 2W8, 519-837-8276, 519-837-8443  or by e-mail to Valeriote.F@parl.gc.ca. While in Ottawa he may also be reached at Room 713 Confederation Building, House of Commons, Ottawa, K1A 0A6, 613-996-4758, 613-996-9922 (fax).

Listen to Hour 1:

You can also follow the links here to check out Frank’s previous visits to Royal City Rag in April and June 2009. He’s a great interview.

We started the second hour of the show with a personal commentary regarding the upcoming municipal election scheduled for October 25Mayor Farbridge announced her bid for re-election this week. Other candidates for mayor and council are sure to follow in short order.

Royal City Rag will continue to follow the municipal scene closely, focusing on the community issues that we believe are important as we move towards the election. Expect to hear more commentaries on the record of the current council and our hopes for the next.

Listen to the Commentary:


Later in the second hour we talked to Alli Russell from Po’Girl. Po’Girl are in Guelph on March 9 for a show at Dublin St United Church as part of their “No Shame” tour, highlighting the serious problem of child sexual abuse.

Russell is the survivor of ten years of sexual abuse at the hands of her stepfather.  She wrote the song “No Shame” in 2006 after her stepfather was released from prison . You can find it on their critically acclaimed album, Deer in the Night.

Proceeds from the tour will support Little Warriors in Canada and the National Children’s Alliance in the USA. Alli Russell will also be running the Athens, Ohio marathon, on April 11 to support these groups.

Hailing originally from Canada, Po’Girl weave a blend of musical influences, sweetness, grit & soul into a fresh and original sound. Their latest release, 2009’s Deer in the Night still includes many of the trappings of the trademark Po’ Girl sound – the echoes of speakeasy jazz, the western lament, the accordion-strapped ghosts of European folk – but it’s all delivered with a soulful clarity and depth only hinted at on previous records.

Po’Girl And The No Shame Tour To Combat Child Abuse
featuring Po’Girl (with special guest JT Nero) and Noise and the Ghost
When: March 9 at 7.30 p.m.
Where: Dublin St United Church, 68 Suffolk St W, Guelph
Tickets: $16/$20

Listen to Hour 2:

Johnny Cash, Redemption Day from American Recordings VI, Ain’t No Grave
Roseanne Cash, I’m Moving On from The List
Tony Bennett, Rags To Riches from Mob Life
Michael Buble, A Song For You from It’s time
Janis Ian, The Great Divide from Folk Is The New Black
Po’Girl, Bloom from Deer In The Night
Po’Girl, No Shame from Deer In The Night

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Progressive thought and the people of Guelph were the big losers at City Hall last night.

The winners were surely the gravel companies, and the highway engineers who have a new freeway to build. Rumour has it will be the 406 from Niagara.

This new 400 series 100 km/h highway, thanks to the wisdom of the current council, will run directly through the city which will be very convenient for those of us who like to get down to wine country or visit the Shaw Festival during the summer.

Unfortunately I doubt it will do much for the citizens of Guelph or their quality of life.

It was a surreal evening in the spanking new council chambers with the current council doing their best impression of the last council.

All very un-Guelph and all very unsustainable.

The vast majority of council seemed far more interested in the fate of a service road between Stone and Kortight, than in the impact these highways upgrades will have on our community.

Councillor Laidlaw tried to inject some sanity into the proceedings by speaking with passion about the very real impact of peak oil. Unfortunately few if any were listening. Her words like great presentations from citizen delegates fell on deaf ears.

Councillor Piper suggested an amendment to get some short-term solutions implemented faster. Longer turning lanes and improved signalization, with the hope that if we can prove the Hanlon can work better, we can put off this indefinitely.

For the record, councillors Findlay, Laidlaw and Piper voted against it.

Let’s hope it never gets built. Not quite the legacy we want to leave our grandchildren.

A very frustrating night for the citizens present.

It all reminded me a bit of a line out of that over-played song by The Who, “Won’t Get Folded Again”.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss…

Jan Andrea Hall

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Royal City Rag on April 22 focused on the to the MTO‘s proposed “upgrades” to the Hanlon Expressway. Their  “preferred plan” is scheduled to go to Guelph City Council for approval on Monday, April 27.

Transit and Transportation advocate David Graham and Co-Chair of the Guelph Chapter of the Council of Canadians, Dave Sills, joined us in the studio to discuss this important and highly controversial project. 

We also heard a presentation to the Community Development and Environmental Services Committee by Ben Bennett and a commentary from Hanlon Expressway activist Joan Agosta.

Listen to Ben Bennett:

Listen to Joan Agosta:

Many people in Guelph are concerned about the serious environmental, health and social consequences of allowing the Hanlon to become a 400-series 100 km/hr highway that divides our city.

Despite an apparent high degree of public consultation by the MTO there are still many unanswered questions:

How much time will be saved for vehicles using the “improved” highway?

Is there not a danger of transferring the occasional bottleneck the Hanlon experiences in rush hour to another part of the highway network?

Could we not have found a much cheaper way to make the Hanlon a more efficient way to travel?

For instance, why weren’t other options (synchronized lights, longer turn lanes) seriously considered? And, could we be spending the city’s transportation dollars more effectively?

Finally, wouldn’t we be better to hold off on a final decision on the Hanlon until council sees the MTO proposals for upgrades from Wellington to Woodlawn?

With the City of Guelph looking at a bill of at least $16 million to make this a reality –  a figure that is sure to balloon once the cost of service roads needed to maintain a certain  level of livability for those close to the highway are factored into the equation, this decision is likely to be one of the most important, if not the most important, that the current council will face, especially when it may take 10-15 years to see all the upgrades completed.

Bearing in mind that all these “improvements” could be made at the same time as sky-rocketing gasoline prices make automobile travel less appealing, this could be seen to be seriously wrongheaded and highly irresponsible.

If there is one Royal City Rag that you should listen to, this is it.

If there is one issue you should get involved in, this is it.

As a community we need to be careful what we ask for.

Please contact the mayor and councillors if you have any concerns about this project.

Arrange to speak as a delegation at City Council by contacting the City Clerk at 519-837-5603 or clerks@guelph.ca.

Your children will thank you for it.

This project WILL change the fabric of our city… forever.

Contacting City Council:

Artists In Support Of Concrete Action On Climate Change, You Have A Choice (digital download)
Cat Stevens, Where Will The Children Play? from Tea For The Tillerman

Listen to the show:

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Needed –  A Paradigm Shift
Joan Agosta

The MTO would have us believe that they have engaged in considerable public consultation leading to “important changes” to the plan to upgrade the Hanlon as a freeway.  The recent City Staff report shares the MTO’s opinion, recommending that Council support their latest “Preferred Plan”. From their perspective, the main concerns of the citizens of this city have been addressed and considerable consensus has been reached. I strongly disagree.

Since November 2007, I, along with numerous other citizens, have spent hundreds of hours speaking with concerned citizens, attending meetings, facilitating the signing of petitions, carrying out research, and sharing information regarding the Hanlon. I also participated in the MTO facilitated workshops.  This tightly controlled process ignored the fundamental objections to an expressway in the city and choose to address mainly the “not in my backyard” concerns. The arguments pointing out that the  upgrades are not only wrong but irresponsible, have, by and large, been relegated to an afterthought (oh, by the way, a few citizens  raised concerns about the impact on air and water quality, flooding, the ultimate necessity for a freeway).

Upgrading the Hanlon to an expressway would be irresponsible:

1. We are 40 years too late. The Hanlon was conceived in 1969; Guelph’s population was half what it is today with little or no housing in the surrounding area. Both the City and the Province have allowed the adjacent area to be developed. Today the Hanlon backs right up into homes. There are five schools in close proximity to the College and Stone interchanges, and two day care centres: St. Rene Goupil and The YMCA/YWCA.

2. Expressways and people don’t mix. City staff pretend that air quality will improve with the upgrades, less stop and go traffic. With an increase of traffic on the Hanlon of up to 50,000 vehicles per day, there will be an associated increase in noise and air pollutants from exhaust emissions.  The Ontario government is studying a massive expansion of the transportation network in the Golden Horseshoe over the next 20 years. Will Guelph’s Hanlon become a convenient North-South bypass to the 401, 407 and 403?

3. Poor air quality is killing us. According to a 2005 study carried out by The Ontario Medical Association, air pollution caused an estimated 5,800 premature deaths, almost 17,000 hospital admissions and almost 60,000 Ontarians to visit hospital emergency rooms. We know how devastating poor air quality is to our health, especially for those living near highways. Children growing to adulthood within 500 meters of a freeway were at the greatest risk.The adverse health impacts in Ontario each year from trans-boundary air pollution include more than 2,700 premature deaths, almost 12,000 hospital admissions, and almost 14,000 emergency room visits. The OMA report estimates the cost of air pollution to the economy of Ontario at $16 B per year!

4. Ontario acceptable noise levels are too high for our health. A University of Guelph report compares permitted maximum Residential noise levels in Canada (55 dB) with other countries and, most importantly, the World Health Organization (45 dB). Acoustic walls are fettered with problems and can actually increase noise or deflect the noise to other areas in the community. The MTO has their own standards for noise levels: levels are negotiated with the Ministry of the Environment. During PIC #2, an MTO representative commented that if we lived along the QEW in Toronto the levels would be around 80 or 85 so these really weren’t so bad.

5. We need a paradigm shift in the way we think about transportation. At an emergency summit in Copenhagen last week, scientist issued a desperate plea for world leaders to curb green house gas emissions or face an ecological and social disaster (the Guardian, March 20-26, 2009). We need to put the environment in the forefront of every decision we make. Building expressways is not sustainable. Todd Litman from the Victoria Transport Policy Institute in B.C. in ReInventing Transportation states: Sustainability requires more efficient, equitable and environmentally sensitive transport. This cannot be achieved simply by improving the efficiency of vehicle designs or traffic management. It requires changes in the way we think about transportation, and how we identify and evaluate solutions to transport problems. Transport planners often treat vehicle movement as an end in itself. Sustainable transportation planning focuses on access,which can often be improved with strategies that reduce the need to travel altogether. (http://www.vtpi.org/reinvent.pdf)

Many of us are making the connection between the devastation of the environment, the economic crisis with huge job losses, and the choices we make on a day to day basis.  We are trying to reduce our footprint on the environment, repair damage done in the past and, in general, make responsible decisions in view of the legacy we are leaving to our children.  Expressways are not part of that legacy.

Joan Agosta, M.Ed.
Learning Specialist

Listen to Joan Agosta:

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The High Cost of Convenience
The on-again, off-again plans to turn the Hanlon into a freeway are on again and the plan is crazy
Guelph Mercury
March 18, 2009
Ben Bennett

Many years ago, there was this thing called crazy paving.

It was different shaped pieces of stone that you used to make a garden path. It was durable; it allowed water to penetrate and it was visually pleasing.

In 2009 we have another version of crazy paving. It needs repairing all the time; it does not allow water to penetrate and it looks like hell. It has been very handy though in moving us and things around with relative convenience.

While the cost to maintain this crazy paving is huge, we don’t actually see the invoices as they are buried in our provincial and local tax bills. And gas is cheap.

The cost to make new crazy paving is so high that if we each got invoices for the per-person cost in our mailboxes we would probably take to the streets. But they, too, are buried in our provincial and local tax bills, and while we invariably complain about the high taxes we pay, we don’t seem to make the connection. And gas is cheap.

Since the early 1960s, there has been a plan on the books to convert the wistfully-named Hanlon Expressway into a fully-fledged 400-series freeway. Given the cost and its questionable strategic value to the province’s road system, not much happened for more than 30 years. The plans, along with many others, gathered dust on an engineer’s desk at the Ministry of Transportation’s branch in London.

Then, miraculously, in the mid-1990s, they found their way to the top of the pile.

It’s not clear if there was a change in priorities or if a harried office cleaner accidentally knocked the pile to the floor and hurriedly put the plans back, but in a different order.

Either way, at a time when Mike Harris’s budget cuts were closing hospitals, someone found the money to spend what ended up being $30 million on an overpass at the Hanlon’s halfway point. And there sat the overpass, all dressed up and freeway ready, with nothing but regular highways feedings its four corners.

After a few years, someone else in London noticed there wasn’t actually an approval in place for the Highway 7 freeway plan. Over the next several years, the engineers went back and forth to the drawing board to come up with a design they could sell to the area councils.

The previous council in Guelph signed off, comforted, one assumes, by the fact that the cost would come from provincial taxes, not local taxes.

That cost would be about $20,000 per driver for the people who actually use the highway and suffer the iniquity of occasional five-to-10 minute delays in the rush hour.

But spread out among the province’s 12 million population, the half a billion dollars cost looks a little easier to bear, even if they are projecting a $10-billion deficit this year.

It appears the error-prone office cleaner is still working in London, because in the past couple of years, the engineers have been working on a design for the Hanlon south of Wellington Street that won’t upset too many neighbours.

It calls for a six-lane freeway, a service road, the destruction of a stand of mature trees that were planted as a buffer against the original road, and their replacement by a 15-foot wall at the edge of the nearby residents’ property.

And among other things, it calls for the removal of the intersection at College Avenue.

This is crazy.

Ben Bennett
Residents for Sustainable Development

Listen to Ben Bennett’s presentation to the Community Development and Environmental Services Committee:

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We will be devoting the whole of Royal City Rag on April 22 to the proposed “improvements” to the Hanlon Expressway. The MTO has come up with their “preferred plan”. The matter is now coming to City Council for approval on Monday, April 27.

David Graham and Dave Sills will be joining us in the studio to discuss a project that many believe is too late, too extensive and too expensive in these uncertain economic times. A 100 km/hr 400-series urban highway that will not only effectively split our city in two, but also comes with unpredictable social, heath and environmental consequences.

Yet there are still many unanswered questions:

How much time will be saved on the average commute?

Is there not a danger of transferring the occasional bottleneck the Hanlon experiences in rush hour to another part of the highway network?

Could we not have found a much cheaper way to make the Hanlon a more efficient way to travel?

For instance, why weren’t other options (synchronized lights, longer turn lanes) considered? And, could we be spending the city’s transportation dollars more effectively?

Finally, wouldn’t we be better to hold off on a final decision on the Hanlon until council sees the MTO proposals for upgrades from Wellington to Woodlawn?

This is likely to be the most important decision that we will take. A decision that will have far reaching consequences, especially when you consider that the upgrades may take 10-15 years to complete.

Bearing in mind that all these “improvements” could be made at the same time as sky-rocketing gasoline prices make automobile travel less appealing, this could be seen to be seriously wrongheaded and highly irresponsible.

Will this be the legacy of the current council?

Promises to be a great discussion. Join us Wednesday, 6-7 p.m. on CFRU93.3fm, Guelph’s Campus Community radio station. Get informed and get engaged. Your city needs you!

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Transit and Transportation advocate David Graham will be joining us again on Royal City Rag on March 11.

Among other things we’ll be talking about the GTA West Corridor project and the proposed upgrades to the Hanlon Expressway. David also has some interesting things to say about the Go Trains coming to Guelph and why a true Park and Ride facility would be good for Guelph.

The show won’t just be about transit though…

We also have a great interview with Sid Ryan, President of CUPE Ontario about why we should ditch bottled water.

Listen live on CFRU 93.3fm, Guelph’s Campus and Community Radio Station or after the fact via the website.

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David Graham was in the studio to provide an update on a variety of transit-related issues including the proposed improvements to the Hanlon Expressway, the ongoing environment assessment for the GTA West Corridor transit route, the real possibility of the Go Train coming to Guelph in 2010 and parking in Downtown Guelph.

As David was also heavily involved in the campaign to elect Liberal Frank Valeriote as MP for Guelph we also had a chance to reminisce about the recent federal general election.

We started the show with a short interview from November 2007 with Maude Barlow, national chairperson of the Council of Canadians. Maude has recently been appointed United Nations Senior Advisor on Water Issues. Maude was in Guelph on November 20 to discuss the worldwide fight to protect public access to water as part of the University of Guelph Campus Cafe speaker series.

Fembots – God Keep Our Hands Clean from Calling Out
Funky Mamas – Rolling Along from Rolling Along
Johnny Cash – Come Along And Ride This Train from Johnny Cash’s America
Fred Eaglesmith – I Like Trains from Official Fred Eaglesmith Bootleg Volume 1

The audio for this show is no longer available on the website.  If however you wish to hear it again, please contact us at info@royalcityrag.ca. Thank You.

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On October 23rd, community residents will have their last chance to express their opinion to the MTO regarding the proposed Hanlon ungrades.

The City and the Province agreed to extend the public process as required to resolve outstanding concerns expressed by the community.

The MTO has prepared their revised preferred option for the Hanlon based on this extended process which will be displayed at a forth PIC this coming Thursday.

When: Thursday, October 23, 2008 between 4.00 p.m. and 8.00 p.m.
Where: Holiday Inn, Oakwood Ballroom, 601 Scottsdale Drive, Guelph

A summary of the project to date is available on the project web site http://www.hanlonimprovements.ca/.

The materials from the fourth public information session will be made available on the web site from Thursday.

For more information on citizens concerns regarding the project, visit www.guelphhanlon.org.

Community members will have 30 days after October 23rd to submit additional written comments.

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A show dedicated to environmental issues.

Erin Harkins from the OPIRG-Guelph Speed River Project joined us in the first half to chat about the upcoming Urban Wilderness Weekend May 17-19 and the upcoming Speed River Clean Up on June 7.

We also updated the need to submit comments about Ontario’s proposed Cosmetic Pesticides legislation before May 22, 2008 to the Environmental Registry to ensure that the legislation and regulations will most effectively protect human and environmental health. Not only should you send in your comments to the registry but you should also send a letter to Dalton McGuinty and Environment Minister Gerretsen. You can read me about this issue here.

In the second half of the show we were able to follow up on on the proposed improvements to the Hanlon Expressway and the recent workshops put on by the Ontario Ministry of Transportation with our regular transit and traffic correspondents, David “CDLU” Graham and Laura Murr.

Unfortunately the jury is still out as to whether the Ministry of Transportation will pay any attention to the community input they’ve received during the workshops. We’ll continue to follow this issue as it develops.

Remember to let all our elected representatives, municipal and provincial, know about what you think about the proposed improvements to the Hanlon. Don’t forget that as Guelph citizens we are likely to pick up the tab for any of the money the city needs to spend in our taxes!

Ask yourself one question, is it really appropriate to have a 100 km per hour expressway running right through the centre of Guelph?

Who is this going to benefit?

I’m biased, but if I’ve learnt anything in the life, you only need to “follow the money” to work out who benefits from something like this. It ain’t you and me folks!

Top of the list of beneficiaries will be the lobbyists, engineers and road contractors. Don’t forget the MTO is really the Ministry of Roads and Highways. This is all about helping big business move goods past Guelph. Its not at all about making it easier for you to get home or to Home Depot. Faster roads don’t ease congestion they just move congestion.

Apologies for sound quality that is not as good as normal. Not sure why that happened. I’d heard from one listener that the show sounded fine on the radio at the time. Please let me know if you’ve had problems listening to the show. We’re still adjusting to a nice new studio which has created some minor sound issues.

Two Hours Traffic, “Sure can start” from “Little Jabs”
James Gordon and Sons: “This is just a song” from “James Gordon and Sons”
Kraftwerk: “Autobahn” from “Autobahn”

The audio for this show is no longer available on the website.  If however you wish to hear it again, please contact us at info@royalcityrag.ca. Thank You.

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